Дни из жизни Мишель, Рона и Дэна, и Питера

попались мне в пересказе by xof (пока искала инфу о нательных микрофонах на съемках, которые оказывается использовались))

про эти дни "A Day in the Life" квировского каста, которые когда-то были на шоутаймовском сайте, частично сохранились и до сих пор, но в большей своей части сгинули, я писала и рассказывала тут: Питер Пейдж. За кадром 209. Видео. moveforever.diary.ru/p141457868.htm и туда же я добавила пересказ дня Питера, поскольку там же и видео

а тут выложу пересказ того, что было в дне Мишель, и в дне Рона с Дэном (из которого одна видюшка дожила до наших дней и ее все знают - cast reading)

(все на английском)

Мишель



Showtime has added a "Day in the Life" section of their Behind the Scenes QAF Page.

Featured is a video / picture tour of one day in the life of the show's production. Each segment showcased has either a streaming video clip or a picture featured.

For those not able to view it, I'll give you a recap of what's featured:

"On Monday, February 11 we accompanied Michelle Clunie on location in Toronto. See as Michelle proceeds through her day on the set of Queer As Folk running the whole gamut from hair and make-up to the many aspects of shooting scenes to all the activities that go into the many hours spent on a set."

7:30am - "Michelle shows up for work and begins the process of becoming Melanie in Hair and Make-up."


Vid One - Michelle is shown exiting her trailer in early morning. She's got a big coat on, is clutching a hot cup and her sides for the day - saying it's reallllly early and realllllllllllly cold. Maybe 25 degrees. Makes her understand why they actually sale coats like her own, in LA...lol. She walks with an assistant, a man who takes care of the actors - and says she often tells him what to do since she thinks men need to be told. They go into the set - they are shooting the scene where Lindz covers her eyes and takes her up to the attic. We see them "walking a scene" meaning they aren't even in character, but are finding out where to go, how to move, etc. before the shot is made. She then goes to makeup, where's she's being taken from "imperfect to better." lol... What's funny is the whole time she's talking, and he's doing her lipstick - you can see this Polaroid of Divina Devore stuck to the mirror...heheh. We're seeing how much work goes into the "no makeup work" and that's it's "really hard." Next is hair - and Michelle shows us her character's coloring - "red, chocolate, raspberry." And ... haha, we're treated to a convo on how Michelle's hair "sprouts" whenever it's cut. The hairdresser talks about the "marriage" they have over Michelle's looks and hair choices. Michelle tells us that mostly she and Thea shoot most of their scenes in a day or so, that's it's more concentrated - unless they have scenes with the other cast members.

Pic One - "Key Makeup Artist Stephen Lynch gives Michelle a touch up on the set."

Next - "Begins shooting attic scene with Thea Gill and Nancy Sakovich."

Vid Two - Lindz, Michelle and Nancy are talking through their lines - while sipping drinks...lol. A lot of behind the scenes footage of Michelle being directed as to positioning in the attic set. We see take two of Lindz escorting a blinded Melanie up the stairs - and you can tell by the words, how they are phrased that this isn't the take that's used on the episode. We see through the viewfinder as the scene continues. Then it segue-ways into Leda's giving them an estimate of the materials, but what we see is the continuity girl going over her sсript line by line as they talk. Michelle tells us about the director, as we see him giving her and Nancy instructions for the next take. She is then shown being touched up - makeup-wise - for "coverage" close up scenes - now that the masters have been completed. She introduces the boom guy. Then the cameraman. Michelle says these guys are so sweet. That they are the ones she and Thea do their love scenes in front of and once "cut" is yelled - the guys will literally cover their eyes...lol. She and Thea are asked how's it playing a couple. ROFLMAO. Michelle proceeds to cups Thea's breasts as they talk about being comfortable with each other. Being able to discuss things without pause.

Pic Two - "Michelle working on a scene with Nancy Sakovich who plays Leda."

Next - "Michelle talks about creating Melanie's look and mentality."

Vid Three - Wardrobe talk...lol. Michelle's pants are from Europe, and she tells us where the wire and microphone are hid. "Basically we want Melanie to look strong." And she says she hates clothes that cover her arms - ie, she likes sleeveless clothes - because it "annoys" her. She's asked what she thinks about Melanie. "Honest" and "she calls it like she sees it." She says the cast is incredibly close, that they are able to hear other's opinions and are open to them. We see several shots of her and Thea working. Michelle says the first year the producers were very much responsible for putting the cast together, and keeping them close. She says the crew is also special, because they "want" to be there - working on a gay themed show - when many others didn't want to. She shows us her whole wheat with peanut butter and banana slices...eeek. Saying she and Thea eat that all the time. One of "their sandwiches" - and they two start acting like realllly ancient old women asking for food as Michelle gums a kiss on Thea's cheek. ROFLMAO.

Pic Three - "Michelle chats with the 1st A.D. Kim MacLachlan between scenes."

Next - "Shooting continues in Melanie and Lindsay's attic with Gale Harold and Thea Gill."

Vid Four - As they wait for scene set up, we see more of Thea and Michelle fooling around. Michelle slaps Thea on the butt, saying she's tougher than Thea. More scene set up - a lot more. With measuring tapes and camera placements. After lunch - AWWWWW!!!! It's Gale. THUD. Okay, okay - I soooo need to calm down. This is the scene with him in the attic, as the two girls talk about why Lindz didn't want Leda's help. He's dressed in his work clothing, with Gus' spit towel over his shoulder. The moment they are giggling up to is when Lindz turns on the circular saw and scares the shit out of all involved....lol. Gale make a funny...hehe. Saying he's "so compelled to grab that saw. Self-destructive impulse." The director says please, "no hijacks with the saw." We then see Michelle with her hands raised high, as three men are working on her mike and sound wire. "This is worse than the airport." Shooting the scene - Mel and Lindz mesmerized to the Martha Steward-esque Video as Brian enters - and I crack UP when Gale says "who is that crazy bitch." We see more of that scene being shot.

Pic Four - "Michelle, Thea and Gale running through a scene in Lindsay and Melanie's attic."

Next - "5:45pm - Between takes Michelle elaborates on her average day on the set."

Vid Five - Michelle's kidding around about having filmed with the saw. Saying it's Showtime - No Limits. And how it was choreographed like a dance...not. She's practically punch-drunk with tiredness now. Saying they talk about scenes with the producers, then she and Thea will call and talk about it, then they'll talk to the director - and after all this talking - "they'll just come up with something" last second. Her 18 hour day is winding down - she's tired and her voice is going. Talks about having to be hyper-aware and present in the scenes - and how emotional it is. It's a build up - so on days where they work 18 hours all they want to do afterwards is shower and sleep - but if they only film one scene in a day "it's like sex without orgasm." She's actually 11 hours into her day and they are on the third scene. This scene could be frantic, so they saved it till last. Michelle goes to "graze" at the food table - avoiding the sugar so her energy levels won't drop. (((Funny, that Peter Paige admitting to eating candy all through out the day.))) We see the director praising her and her energy/preparedness. She says goodbye to us - breaking down into a giggle fit in the process....and is called back into the scene.

Pic Five - "Michelle and Thea hanging out."

That's it folks....

Hugs,

xof


Рон и Дэн

вот тут видюшка из него www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0c8GW8LYWo

Showtime has added a "Day in the Life" section to their Behind the Scenes QAF Page.

Featured is a video / picture tour of one day in the life of the show's production. Each segment showcased has either a streaming video clip or a picture featured.

For those not able to view it, I'll give you a brief recap of what's featured:

9 AM - "Dan arrives at Dufferin Gate Productions, and heads to editing." Dan Lipman is shown going into the production office - he speaks to a few staff members and then Hal Sparks comes over. Hal's pretending to cry saying Dan's being mean to him...that he promised they could have fun today. It's cute...Dan plays along saying they'd talked about this before the taping, and that Hal was supposed to be "happy" for the camera. After the play-crying is over, we see Hal and Dan talking. It's fun to watch since Hal says he's learned there can be sexual innuendo in practically anything. Course Dan and Hal emphasize " In U End O"....lol. Then Dan walks down and we see "Uncle Vic"- Jack W. - talking with a new director. Then Dan goes and talks to the show's editor. You can see footage from Ep 9 on her monitor as they talk.

Pic One - Dan, Producer Sheila Hockin and Editor Lisa Grootenboer edit a scene from Ep. 9.

10 AM - "Ron arrives and focuses on the writing process." Ron Cowen discusses the writing process. Takes about a week per episode. They have a writing team of five men ( including Ron ) and one woman. They tell three stories per show, each written on a dry-erase board in a different color.

Pic Two - Dan goofs off with actor, Hal Sparks.

Noon - "Ron reunited with Dan and works further with writer Karen Walton." They are reviewing a first draft sсript. Discussing whether to keep an "E" reference in a future episode. And then there is a small spoiler about Michael and Justin. Not too big. They say they are both high and acting silly, that this is the beginning of their collaboration. It's great to see the scene being discussed. After lunch, Ron and Dan are kidding about all the Moose they have to eat in Toronto. Ron talking back with the writing team...wanting them to add in a scene of Michael acting as the messenger of Justin's unhappiness to Brian. (Oh my....) Ron's saying things get more .... nastier? ... then he says, "Frazzled."

Pic Three - Ron, Dan and Karen Walton in the office going over a sсript.

3 PM - "Key members of the staff and cast gather for a table read of Episode 212." Dan is saying that this is the time for any problems the cast may be having to be discussed because once they hit the set, everything is set in stone. We see Michelle Clunie arriving- Dan thought she wouldn't be there. Then Sherry Miller comes in and gets lots of hugs from Dan. We see that Dan's telling each person that they are his favorite actor...lol. Thea Gill, then Scott Lowell - who tells him he's his fav too since he signs all their paychecks. Peter Paige comes in and after Dan tells him he's his favorite actor...Peter starts to get all emotional and says that since Dan never says anything nice, it's great to hear. Dan's laughing. As Peter walks away, he finishes by telling Dan - "Now could you get your hand off my ass, thanks." Next up - Bobby Gant. He's told about being the fav....and he says thanks, that he paid Dan well to say that. Just then, we see Scott BEHIND Dan and Bobby - listening and looking all hurt for hearing he's been lied to...lol. Bobby sees him, and says okay it's nice being the second favorite on the show. Randy Harrison, food in hand as he tries to get out of the camera shot. Dan tells him about the fav... and Scott yells out, "I'm right here, Dan. I can hear you!!!" Then we see the cast reading sections of the sсript outloud. None of which we can make much sense out of. There is a brief scene of Michael and Deb at a grave. And then Michael and Brian in the steamroom at the Gym. As the producers recap the process, they show panning shots of the cast members all around the table. Gale, Peter, Sherry, Bobby, Scott, Hal, Ron, Dan, Thea, Michelle, Jack, Sharon, Randy with others mixed in. The reading takes around two hours. Next Dan says they will being doing some casting for ep 212 - which is the ep sсript we just saw them reading. Dan says the first person to read for them originally was Scott, then Peter - who read for Ted but they quickly ran after him and said read for Emmett, and the third was Hal. So both Dan and Ron thought this is so easy....course what followed was a bit of casting nightmare for most of the other parts.

Pic Four - Ron and Hal going over the sсript for episode 212.

Pic Five - Ron, Dan, Hal Sparks, Sherry Miller, Sharon Gless, and Sheila Hockin talk before the cast table read begins.

Pic Six - The cast table read.

7 PM - "Pete Paige shows off his diva side." Hilarious take of Peter acting the grand dame. He storms in demanding to speak to Ron. Then throws his sсript down. Ron says don't throw scripts at me and Peter says he'll throw whatever he wants when it's written like that. They start flipping through the poor beat up sсript discussing heatedly whether Peter can say his lines. Peter says, "I can't save every scene. I'm not even in that scene." Then they both crack up. Peter kisses Ron on the cheek and they hug. They go back into the play acting...with Ron saying Peter was "off" in the read through. Peter's calling him Mr. Cohan now...lol. Acting like he's gonna cry again. Then they kiss and hug again. And they kid around about who gets to have their face be towards the camera while they hug....it's an old stage trick to be the one everyone can see rather than the one that's obscured by the other person's head...lol.

8 PM - "Ron and Dan catch a second wind and visit the set." Mostly Dan's walking through all the sets...and we see a brief shot of Scott saying everything's going fine, "It's all in the sсript." A veryyy brief shot of Dan watching the scene being shot through the monitor...scene's set in Woody's, btw. They wrap photography for the night at 8:30 PM but Ron and Dan are going to be working with the writers to about 10:30 PM.

And that's all folks.....

Pic Seven - Ron and Dan on the set of Woody's.

Hugs.

xof

ну и это сюда сдублирую для удобства



и опять меня поражает, как фандом мог не сохранить этого?
ну выдрали же три видюшки из этих дней в свое время, но почему не все? из дня Скотта и дня Мишель не сохранилось вообще ничего, даже того кусочка, где был Гейл... удивительно просто.

@темы: давным-давно на Sho.com, интересности QAF, QAF - A Day in the Life (День из жизни)

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Патрик Антош, опять)

меня не перестает поражать, как вот такие чудесные штуки умудряются исчезать из интернетов
(потому что если я не ошибаюсь, если ошибаюсь, поправьте - это видео тоже из утраченных ныне, и его нельзя было увидеть или найти где скачать... залила на ютуб)

Volt intervew



00:04:23 )) cocksock)

о, и еще, а никто не знает - есть какая-то фишка в одежде с цифрами? потому что вот на Патрике я видела три или четыре однотипные кофты с разными огромными цифрами, Джастин не единожды в майках с маленькими цифрами появляется - это все просто так или...?

@темы: видео, Patrick Antosh, интервью

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Закрытая запись, не предназначенная для публичного просмотра

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злободневный прям плакатик попался из 2004-го года)

Девушка (g2ny), совершенно помешана на Рэнди, к тому же планирует учиться в театральном, сама уже видимо участвует в каких-то спектаклях, собирается ехать в НЙ смотреть Wicked.
Едет она с мамой, так что сумму вероятно надо делить на два, едут из Детройта на три дня, но на спектакле они были только на одном, так что сумма все равно впечатляет...да и для них она явно не маленькая, судя по плакатику)... (на отель они правда наверное могли и меньше потратить, хотя я понятия не имею, сколько стоят номера в отелях нй))


ну и заодно ее рассказ (на спектакле-то на одном, но увидеть Рэнди она умудрилась все три дня подряд))

Boq Stalking


Day 1

Okay so I got to NYC on Tuesday night. Decided to walk to Gershwin just so I knew where it was. I get to the theatre at around 5:30 p.m. and found out there was a 7 p.m. show, naturally I stayed. Waiting, waiting, waiting till 6:35 when my mom spotted Randy walking down the street with his headphones ::squeal:: I was flipping out. So I waited patiently until he reached the stage door and then snapped a pic while another girl got his attention. The first thing I said to the most beautiful, gorgeous, talented person I’ve ever seen? “Are you in a hurry?” lol. I swear. Then I went onto say “if so I don’t want to keep you.” And his reply? “Well I have to go check in, but ya know…” So the other girl (who was very rude) threw her camera at me and demanded a picture with him and she’s going on and on about how much she loves him and he seems so annoyed by her (But remains nice and gracious). So then my mom pushes me into Randy after I told her not to bother with a picture because he was late. He sorta smiled at me and looked straight at the camera when my mom snapped it. He asked me if I had seen the show and I told him I was going on Thursday. His reply? “Oh that’s so great. I hope you like it.” He flashed that trade mark smile. I turned into a puddle at that moment.


Day 2

Wednesday I went back to Gershwin to try to get an autograph. So I got there around 6:30 and the show wasn’t till 8. So we waited and waited till around 7:25 when he came walking down the street. This time I was standing about 15 ft away from the stage door and approached him. Here is exactly the “five” second conversation I had with him.

Side Note: M=Me, R=Randy, MM=My Mom

M: Excuse me, I’m sorry, but Randy could you please sign this? (holds up paper)

R: (Takes off head phones) umm, sure (looks confused. So cute! Grabs pen and signs)

M: (thinking omg, omg, omg he’s so close, he’s so close)

R: There ya go.

M: Thanks.

MM: We’re going to the show on Thursday.

R: Oh that’s great. Hope you like it. Thanks.

M: (thinking - I have no voice. I cannot speak.)

R: (Puts head phones back on and keeps walking)

M: (When he’s gone I squeal)


Day 3

Thursday night, the night of the play I walk down to Gershwin at around 6:30. At around 7:37 he shows up with headphones on I learned it is best to wait a little away from the stage door because that way you are away from the rush of fans and you get the Randy all to yourself. I approach him and lightly touch his arm to get his attention (Insert Squeal). He jumps a little but then smiles that sunshine smile when he sees me.

R: Oh hey! How ya doin’? (He acts like he knows me)

M: Could I bother you for a quick picture?

R: Sure, no problem.

(Picture is taken)

M: Love the show.

R: Thanks.

MM: We‘ve been here alot.

R: Yeah, you guys were here the last two nights. (smiles)

MM: We’re going home tomorrow.

M: No more stalking. I promise.

R: (laughs) You guys are going to the show tonight, right?

M: Yeah

R: That‘s what I thought. Hope you enjoy it.

M: Good luck tonight!

R: Thanks. (Smiles again and his shoulders slump a little as he sees the group of fans standing by the door. He tries to get in but they keep blocking the entrance.)

Let me just say that’s the best night I’ve been in NYC. He is so friendly and so nice. He’s the kind of person that you just like to be around. And I was so excited that he remembered me from the last two days! And than he was all friendly like we were good friends. I was so ecstatic. I mean Randy fucking Harrison remembers me! Lol. When he said that I think my jaw almost hit the ground. I just couldn’t stop smiling. I thought it was amusing that the fans at the stage door looked on and some even gave me dirty looks. Lol. One even asked me if I had known Randy personally. I wish! So I replied “Well I’ve been here everyday since Tuesday. I’ve chatted with him everyday and he does act like he knows me.”

Okay just a little more on Randy. He is so soft spoken and gracious that it’s hard to believe he plays Justin. He is really, REALLY humble. But I think he was quite amused by my efforts to meet him. All three days. Lol. Cuz every time he saw me he smiled. No Simon sightings He’s so adorable. He’s a doll.

Other observations-
He seems to really shy away from the lime light. Like I stayed after the show to try and meet him again and he didn’t come out. He went out the other exit. But I did meet Joe and Idina just to throw that out there. There were a lot of girls waiting for him to come out, so I chatted with a few. Told them I had meet him three times (persistence is what I’ve been talking about doing for the best couple months). Watched as they got excited and then completely jealous. In a sick twisted way I was amused by that too.

I will post pictures of my meetings with him when I get them developed tomorrow. So look for them either late Saturday or early Sunday.

зы фоток ее не видела, ну или видела, но просто не знаю, что они ее..

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а подскажите кто-нибудь)) внезапное любопытство про рейтинги

сегодня заходила на imdb по совсем другому делу, и обратила внимание на рейтинг фильма, про который читала, а потом пошла посмотреть рейтинг QAF и Тайного круга.
я не смотрю Тайный Круг, не видела ни одной серии, поэтому мнения своего у меня нет (видела только часть сцен с Гейлом и читала несколько интервью), но по тому что люди пишут, я так понимаю, что сериал никого из квирофандома особо не вдохновляет, если не сказать хуже)

так вот imdb рейтинги, если я ниче не путаю:
Тайный круг - Ratings: 7.5/10 from 3,897 users
Queer as Folk - Ratings: 8.2/10 from 5,555 users

я ничего не понимаю в рейтингах вообще и в частности в рейтингах imdb, в связи с чем у меня вопросы
Большой ли это считается разрыв?
Возможно ли хоть какое-то сравнение по ним, учитывая разницу во времени и вероятно аудиторию
И вообще, эти циферки о чем-нить говорят, или это просто пшик и обращать внимания на них не стоит

upd 2012-01-13
The Secret Circle Ratings: 7.5/10 from 7,335 users
Queer as Folk Ratings: 8.1/10 from 6,007 users

upd 2012-03-27
The Secret Circle Ratings: 7.5/10 from 11,375 users
Queer as Folk Ratings: 8.0/10 from 6,559 users

@темы: рейтинги

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Джуди...

Я давно хотела сказать еще несколько слов о Джуди, потому что мне кажется, ее не совсем правильно воспринимают и от этого возможно делают некие ошибочные выводы.
(я не претендую на доскональное знание предмета, но это то, что кажется вполне очевидно из фейсбука и подтверждается гуглом, как только начинаешь пробивать поодиночке или попарно разные имена ее друзей)


Джуди уже несколько лет известная и популярная queer dance party, в которую опять же уже давно вовлечены самые разные люди, в том числе и достаточно известные, хоть не в мировом масштабе но в НЙ уж точно, насколько я понимаю, и их там много, действительно много.

Вот например хоть Kenny Mellman – с марта 2009 он в друзьях – основатель OHP, или Jack Ferver – с марта 2009 (С ним Рэнди потом сделает Swan!!! и «Notes on a scandal»), Justin Bond – январь 2009

Джастин Бонд например, который давно дружит с Джуди, совсем не пустое место, к слову заметка о нем была на одной странице вместе заметкой о Питере Пейдже в журнале «Адвокат» в 2004-ом, и вообще насколько я понимаю он очень известный, популярный, и давно известный человек. Кому интересно википедия и гугл в помощь.

В друзьях у Джуди масса актеров и людей творческих профессий, не безвестных людей, тоже и с OHP и Joe's, даже еще более, и Джуди и OHP две тесно связанные тусовки еще до того, как Рэнди нарисовался в Джуди.

Они все там связаны друг с другом, если не напрямую, так через близких друзей, знакомых и тусовки, есть друзья Джуди, которые дружат например с Michael Musto и Aaron Cobbet (да, да, тем самым автором первой квировской фотосессии)

Они вместе развлекаются, тусуются, ходят друг к другу на выступления, вместе работают, затевают различные проекты, устраивают и участвуют в благотворительных мероприятиях – это просто один мир.
(и как ни трудно может кому-то в это поверить, вовсе не благодаря Рэнди)

Это конечно все не голливудские звезды, не большое кино, но и Рэнди к большому кино и голливуду сильно-то отношения не имеет, мягко говоря. (пока, во всяком случае)

Я понимаю, что может не нравится Брайан, Джуди или ОНР (тоже ведь, весьма спецфичное зрелище, да, одна основательница и звезда Bridget Everett чего стоит) но если вы презираете Джуди, ее основателей и тех кто там тусуется, как-то вот неизбежно получается, что вы презираете очень и очень большую, известную и творчески активную часть гей-комьюнити Нью-Йорка – актеров, фотографов, журналистов, театральных деятелей.
По-моему это довольно странно, особенно в фандоме Queer as Folk.

все имхо, разумеется.

@темы: Judy

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ula, с Днем!))

радостей тебе всяких разных и много)

гифка 13 мб

@темы: гифы

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Рэнди - Toronto 2003.03.19 Q&A

тема из давнишнего планирования, но все равно какая-то не до... но пусть будет, какая уж есть)

Фоточки наверное видели, их автор Cathy, они плохенькие совсем, и может от этого мне кажутся такими трогательными) (не Рэнди на них, а сами фоточки)), и даже не отчет, а несколько слов Cathy о Рэнди на этом мероприятии.

Toronto Q&A
March 19, 2003
We traveled about 1800 miles over the course of 3 days, to get to Toronto to attend a charity event which included a silent auction, screening of episode 301 and a Q&A with most of the cast of Queer As Folk. I'm planning on writing a complete chronicle of our trip but, in the meantime, here are some of the pictures we took. Note: I had to shrink the pictures to get them all on the pages. If you'd like copies of any of them, email me.
(и вроде где-то попадались они большие, но найти не могу)

Pictures of Randy from the Toronto Q&A
March 19, 2003

I never claimed to be a good photographer and I apologise for the less-than-spectacular quality of these photos. I've heard it said that Randy looked sulky and bratty at the Q&A and I couldn't disagree more. He was filming until 7:00pm and came to the theatre directly from the set. He looked tired, but so did everyone else. Every time I've seen Randy (and I've seen him 7 times now), it's obvious, to me, how ill at ease he is in front of large crowds and how incredibly shy he is. He could have very well gone home that evening, but he didn't. He showed up and he answered every question with candor and honesty. No, he didn't volunteer any answers, but he never does that. He lets others be the 'stars' and he prefers to remain in the background.If his quiet and polite nature is evidence that he's 'bratty and sulky', then I hope he never changes.


















маленькое сокровище, коротенькая видюшка, 28 секунд всего, с этих QA



кем снято я честно сказать не в курсе, то ли забыла, то ли и не знала) (upd ммм, kitkatbyte, f1renze... уточнить)

и фотка еще одна, она не с этого мероприятия, но из того времени и... такая смешная)

@темы: Рэнди видео, Рэнди фото

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какой пейринг замышлялся Коулипом

заклинило меня слегка) не дает покоя эта мысль, недавно пришедшая в голову, поэтому все-таки напишу у себя)) это не утверждение чего-либо, ни для себя ни для вообще никого, это просто возникшая мысль) и любопытство, как думают другие

Меня давно-давно интересует эта тема - когда Коулип выбрал направление БиДжи и забил на Брайан/Майкл (пойдя в принципиальный разрез с оригинальной версией), я не говорю о сюжете, понятно, что о том что будет во втором сезоне например в первом еще никто ничего скорее всего точно не знал, возможно в начале сезона не знали, что будет в конце, актеры уж точно не знали, речь только о выборе главенствующего пейринга именно как пары на будущее.
Когда решили, кто будет парой, а не друзьями - Брайан и Майкл, или Брайан и Джастин

Честно сказать никаких определенных идей у меня не было, я не знаю насколько был прописан сценарий изначально, хотя вряд ли только пилот, конечно... я не знаю, насколько пластичен сценарий в этом плане, то есть насколько легко меняются акценты "на ходу", я честно сказать даже не очень знаю, что говорилось в разных интервью по этому поводу, и если кто чего знает, буду рада если поделитесь) но....
Не так давно мы с gulinarazig пытались разобраться в ранних квировских фотосесиях, что бы понять что было снято на самой первой, Аароном Коббетом и когда. (больше всего его фотосессия известна по журналу Xtra), а совсем недавно мне попался рассказ фанатки, побывавшей на автограф сессии в начале 2004-го года.
вот цитата из ее отчета
I asked Randy and Peter if it was always intended for B and J to be
together or if the original intention was to make it more of a
triangle. Peter said that the triangle thing was more of a UK
series thing but that he also wasn't sure that BJ were meant to be
the focus at first. That's when I said something like, "That's
true, Cowlip doesn't plan the stories far ahead, do they?" Then Randy
said, "No, I think it was always meant to be BJ."
Фанатка спросила у Рэнди и Питера, замышлялся ли треугольник в отношениях, или изначально планировалось БиДжи, и Рэнди ответил, что он думает, что с самого начала планировалось БиДжи.
Сами по себе слова Рэнди моего внимания может быть и не привлекли бы, ну просто отметила бы в голове: вот в 2004-ом он это говорил, но тут мне вспомнилась та самая с фотосессия, с которой теперь вроде бы есть некоторая ясность (в плане, приблизительно когда и что конкретно было снято на ней).
Пилот, который состоял из трех серий (не двух) и снимался как бы я так понимаю неким единым блоком, хотя наверное и с некоторым соблюдением в последовательности серий, но возможно не жестки, снимался примерно с начала июля, до вероятно середины сентября 2000, (не по недели на серию, как это будет потом), и фотосессия Коббета была сделана по всей вероятности где-то во время съемок 103.
И я предлагаю просто посмотреть картинки (по материалам вот этой темы pay.diary.ru/~gulinarazig/p165977710.htm, посмотреть, что именно снимали Коулипы, в плане пейринга хотя выводы из увиденного наверное конечно могут быть самые разные.

итак, вот для начала те фотки на которых все втроем они и отчетливый как бы треугольник

смотреть дальше

но эти съемки, это возможно реплика и дань оригинальной британской версии (имхо сходство очевидно)








но сразу оговорюсь, что в я не знаю других фоток британской версии, поэтому возможно и у них были съемки не треугольника а с превалированим пейринга какого-то, на каких-нибудь рекламах, обложках, вообще где бы то ни было.

далее - групповые снимки, (возможно мне просто кажется, но на них я вижу скорее акцент на БиДжи, но может мне это просто кажется)









и дальше собственно фотки, в которых они опять есть втроем (но это уже не по мотивам реклам британской версии, насколько я знаю), если нет, и если у британцев есть нечто или сильно схожее, то мои подозрения вообще можно смело считать ошибочными наверное.

но вот фотки

Брайан Джастин вместе на диване, Майкл за диваном




Брайан Джастин обнимаются на диване, Майкл на расстоянии




Брайан Джастин в центре целуются, Майкла не сразу и заметишь



здесь, Майкла как на фотошопе (вероятно) прилепили



так и убрали легко




а вот кадры, где вообще никакого Майкла нет








и нет (никогда не всплывало вроде даже) из этой самой ранней фотосессии, нет ни одной съемки где в кадре только Брайан с Майклом.

глядя на все это, и предполагая, что это снималось еще в августе, во время съемок пилота, мне кажется я вижу то, как это и описал в 2004-ом Рэнди
"это всегда подразумевалось как БиДжи"... во всяком случае, имхо, снимали они на этой фотосессии именно это.

ну и для развлечения голосовалку можно прицепить) что вы видите, глядя на эти фотки (только перед тем как голосовать, на забудьте развернуть кат и посмотреть все фотки)) а то снаружи то оставлен как раз "треугольник"

Вопрос: Я вижу на этой фотосессии

1. БиДжи		99	(78.57%)
2. Треугольник		13	(10.32%)
3. Брайан/Майкл		0	(0%)
4. Полная неопределенность с пейрингом		10	(7.94%)
5. Вообще ничего не вижу		4	(3.17%)
Всего:		126

@темы: интересности QAF

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странное интервью... (внезапное UPD))

вчера писала камент, а сейчас подумала - пусть оно отдельной темой будет

если заходит разговор о том, как Гейл сказал, что он натурал и когда - кажется неизменно всплывает статья из Flaunt, точнее вот эта цитата из нее:
"Поэтому первый вопрос, который я задала, когда мы встретились морозным днём в баре старинных вин в Вест Вилледж, разумеется, был – «гей или натурал?»

Он откусывает кусочек козьего сыра и указывает на мой диктофон, жестом требуя выключить его. Мы сидим в тишине. Его ноги в коричневых ботинках с квадратными носами покоятся на подоконнике, он смотрит в сторону и размышляет.

«Я не могу придумать, что делать с этим вопросом. Большинство геев, с которыми я работаю, уверены, что я натурал, так что…» Снова молчание. Он отпивает мерло и наконец продолжает: «Это забавно. Нет, просто… смешно пытаться ответить на этот вопрос». «Но вы не ответили», - настаиваю я. Снова молчание. «Я натурал. Я вынужден это открыть. Полагаю, я просто обдумывал, какому изданию я должен это сообщить», признаётся он наконец, словно быть натуралом – это преступление. И девушки у него нет."
целиком перевод тут queerasfolk-rus.livejournal.com/80573.html

то, что это цитируют, я могу понять, но у меня большой вопрос к самой статье и ее автору... эта журналистка все так преподает... так многозначительно описывает, такие комментарии вставляет "но вы не ответили, - настаиваю я", "снова молчание", "признается"...
я не понимаю вообще на самом деле что происходит.

Это интервью во Flaunt - февраль 2002, но первое обнародование факта было сделано еще за 8 месяцев до этого, в июне 2001, в журнале MetroSource все было сказано четко и ясно - и текст тот уже 1-го июня появился в фанатских интернетах, все было обсуждено фандомом, Pfyre сразу сделал сканы - то есть о той статье все знали

из MetroSource:
But the verdict's in, and he's bound to disappoint Folk watchers everywhere. "I'm straight," Harold says unequivocally." And the reason that I haven't talked about it is because of the show and the way they were promoting it." ("Я натурал, " говорит Харольд недвусмысленно.")

Harold is speaking of the extensive, country-wide ad campaign that began over six months before Folk even aired and which became more intense in the weeks before the show premiered in December. "My idea was to keep everything focused on the characters. I wanted [Brian] to have a chance. And I knew for him to have a chance he would have to be as much that character as completely as possible." So he opted to avoid discussion of his sexual orientation, which he now considers a dicey move, but is happy he did it.
Это все прочитали в июне 2001

Чего в феврале 2002 изображает журналистка для меня загадка, зачем она изображает будто клещами вытягивает сенсационную эксклюзивную информацию, которая уже всему заинтересованному миру сообщена давным давно, девушка домашнюю работу что ли не выполнила? она просто не знала о той статье или что? или расчет, что круг читателей разный? я действительно не понимаю


зы вот тут эта статья в MetroSource (июнь 2001) gallery.kinnetiks.net/thumbnails.php?album=757, фотки оттуда все отлично знают


Совершенно неожиданное UPD)) про статью во FLAUNT
на которую я сейчас посмотрела снова, точнее на абзац про сравнение поцелуев с мужчинами и женщинами.
и на этот раз у меня вопросы не к журналистке, а к хозяйке сайта QAF Addiction)

вот это интервью на QAF Addiction www.angelfire.com/home/qaf/flaunt.html
вот скрин этого кусочка оттуда

вот на всякий случай перевод кусочка (ссылка на перевод статьи целиком есть выше), хотя его видимо все и так наизусть знают:
Он выпускает дым сигареты «American Spirit» и рассуждает, по моему требованию, о разнице между поцелуем с мужчиной и поцелуем с женщиной: «Целоваться с мужчиной… это более животное ощущение. С мужчиной есть такой первобытный драйв, ты это чувствуешь в ту же секунду, когда начинаешь целоваться. Это намного грубее и примитивнее, чем целоваться с женщиной. Женщины не торопятся. Это скорее игра. Это не бешеный порыв, чтобы получить разрядку. И целуясь с мужчинами, у которых даже после бритья очень грубая кожа, я заработал жуткие *бип* ссадины на лице».

а теперь смотрим на скан страницы журнала, я пометила нужный абзац



и фрагмент из скана с этим абзацем покрупнее, потерявшееся предложение подчеркнуто



"И поцелуи с мужчинами заставили меня больше оценить поцелуи с женщинами"

как так вышло? почему потерялось предложение? (и чуть иначе выглядит конец абзаца, хотя в отличие от выпавшего предложения это отличие не принципиальное, просто интересно, что оно есть), я, во всяком случае пока, понятия не имею

@темы: Гейл Харольд, интервью

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Закрытая запись, не предназначенная для публичного просмотра

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предпочтения в QAF

Читала недавно один старый гей-форум опять, другой правда, QAF они смотрели, собственно следили за всем еще до выхода его в эфир. Любопытно мне там многое, и в том числе, конечно, кто их привлекал из персонажей и актеров – много неожиданного встречается, надо сказать))) Совсем непривычных для фандома мнений.. А в марте 2001, когда уже показано было типа 10 серий, была тема «кого предпочитаете)
Почти все подряд процитирую, выбрасывая только то, что не относится к сабжу или касается британской версии, а сабж таков:

If you could choose whomever you wanted as a boyfriend/partner/fuck buddy, which QAF star would it be?
(seekermike: кого бы выбрали из QAF, как бойфренда, партнера, или для потрахаться), внимательно следим за именами))

Grasshopper: From the American version: Ted.

Jeremy_f21: JUSTIN JUSTIN JUSTIN

Vabballfan: It's a toss up between a 3 way with David and Michael and a one-on-one with Ted.
Justin is too twinky for me, Emmit is too queeny and Brian too into himself.

Kelly: For a one time trick, Brian, Mr. Hotlanta T-shirt or Emmett's cyberimage.
For a relationship, Michael.

HandJob: Justin - any time, any place, any way, ANY THING HE WANTS.
That beautiful blonde twink turns me inside out.
Just so pretty for one man, he drives my nuts nuts!

Seekermike: My choice would be DAVID, no question! He's a professional man, he's sexy and he's HANDSOME AS HELL!
If a 17-year-old like Justin came on to me I'd PUKE!

HandJob:Likewise for DAVID (that is, I'd puke if David came on to ME) ...
Especially since that role is played by Chris Potter, one of the two str8s who made anti-gay comments before the show premiered.
At least JUSTIN/Randy is gay in real life!


alec_scudder: Well, if we're talking about characters: then Michael Novotny would be my guy. Second place would go to Emmett Honeycutt—"queeny," yes, but a very attractive (and sweet) man.
If we're talking about actors, then Randy Harrison (who is 24, Seekermike, and gay...and hardly puke-inducing).
I'm also glad to see some here singing Ted's praises. He'd be my third choice.

Chuckem2: Give me Justin in a heartbeat! That man makes me flutter big-time. Say what you all want, but since when can't some that beautiful have a heart and a mind to go with the gorgeous good looks!

Don: The next time Michael smiles, check out his teeth. I have seen pit bulls with tamer looking canines. I would have to be REALLY horny to stick my dick in his mouth.

Derek K: For characters, it's easy. I'm with Seekermike on the David thing. And though I wouldn't necessarily puke if Justin came on to me, I'd be befuddled and disappointed (a little, "Why this scrawny kid, and not the MAN I really want?"). I'd also give Ted a chance. And if we're talking wicked fantasies, that guy in the shiny shirt that Brian was dancing with in episode 2, the one who Justin stole away. PERFECT!
For actors, not much difference. Chris Potter is the hottest guy on the series as far as I'm concerned.


Seekermike: I watched with bated breath when David and Michael made love early on the 3/4 episode. I have never witnessed out-and-out porn as hot as these two showing their love for each other. Just shows what a little imagination can do!

Vabballfan: I have to definitely agree with Seekermike on this one! For two straight men, they sure did play the part.
I sure wouldn't have minded being in the middle of the two of them!
I agree, Chris Potter (whether he made "homophobic" remarks or not) is handsome (read "not twinky"), the best looking man in the cast and I would invite any man that looked like him into my bed anytime. Michael ain't bad either and Ted has a lot of potential!

EriC1979: Since many of my friends have said that
I remind them of Justin, this "question"
is loaded!

I think as a friend and lover I would prefer Emmett or Ted. I'm not sure
in which order that would be, but I really think they are the most real and honest
guys in the show.
As for Chris Potter — I don't know what it is (and it's not his remarks) — I would
turn him down flat, even if he had the largest and most beautiful dick in the world. I can't stand him as an actor or the character he portrays.
Kinda' the same with Hal Sparks, although somewhat less so ...
Brian — forget it!
Which brings us back to Justin, and I wouldn't kick him out of bed, either. I'd
just hope that he'd grow up a little before too long.

Luvitdeep: It's interesting to see all the diverse opinions here. I am glad we don't all like the same type... there's more to go around :-)
I agree with Seekermike, David is the hottest thing around. Too bad he is str8 - that does takes away from the fantasy..

Vabballfan: Dr. David is definitely my type and I thought that Michael was crazy when he originally turned down "the good doctor's" offer to live together. Who wouldn't want to wake up next to Dr. David every morning? Or be in bed next to him the night before...

Matt the Bruins fan: I'd have to vote for Ted. We'd get along very well personality-wise, he's cute as a button, and as long-time posters know, I go wild for men with hairy chests.
If we're talking ACTORS though, let me interject that Gale Harold looks about ten times cuter in interviews than he ever has while dressed up and sneering as Brian.

Zman: David in the American version


Don Normann: As for favorites, why pick just one, when you can fit each into a perfect occasion?
Gym partner, financial advisor and confidant:
TED
Brunch buddy, Broadway maven and camp fashion consultant: EMMETT
Sci-fi fan convention co-conspirator, fellow movie/TV/comic book geek: MICHAEL
Naked houseboy and "club kid" music consultant: JUSTIN
Spectacular one-weekend fuck and the guy most likely to know what Dolce and Gabbana are doing for next Spring: BRIAN
Spectacular seven-days-a-week fuck, the ultimate masseur and the Guy Most Likely To Be My Life Partner (if I were single): DAVID, hands down
Oh, and in the category of Guy I'd Most Want to Force Deluxe Head On Until He Screamed For More: JUSTIN'S DAD

как будто в другую вселенную попадаешь (хотя наверное так и есть)
это все лишь навсего конечно один форум, и поучаствовали в этом опросе не очень много человек, но кажется достаточно для того, чтобы поизумляться результатам… я не подсчитывала, но… Дэвид и/или Крис Поттер, практически самый популярный выбор? Тэд? Эммет? Майкл? Ладно, Джастин-Рэнди я понимаю, но... Брайана только двое упомянули, и то как для одноразвого перепиха, про Гейла только один сказал, и только то, что тот в интервью в 10 раз симпатичнее, чем когда в роли Брайана...
н-да)

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Times Talk Conference, 18 марта 2001

а ведь нет этих фоток в галереях же вроде?
(автора не знаю)























эта другого явно автора и вроде она где-то на поверхности же есть, но в галереях тоже не увидела, так что пусть до кучи будет

@темы: Рэнди фото, Гейл Харольд

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Рэнди и tAB... support... памятка для фаната)

я все-таки решила сделать тему, потому что не раз писала об этом в каментах, но там это совсем быстро теряется)

Я так понимаю, что достаточно многих беспокоит финансовое положение Рэнди, во всяком случае оно достаточно часто обсуждается в различных аспектах, и, возможно, есть те, кто не только хотят это обсуждать, но и действительно помочь, только не знают как. А для это существует способ.
К тому же ваш вклад возможно поспособствует тому, что будут закончены недоделанные проекты.

tAB - родное детище Рэнди и Марси... вот на сайте tAB есть раздел support www.theartsbureau.com/support.html, и им на счет можно перевести энную сумму денег
деньги эти Рэнди конечно вряд ли потратит на себя, на одежду и тд, скорее на какие-нибудь съемочные прибамбасы, но, возможно, он сможет сэкономить свои и...

Вот проект, вероятно сейчас нуждается в средствах, Lorton Lake, он снят в Беркшире летом 2008-го, должен был выйти этим этим летом, но так и не вышел
Рэнди один из сценаристов и в одной из главных ролей
трейлер наверное все видели, если нет - вот

смотреть трейлер

Я хочу уточнить, чтобы никто не путался - недавно был объявлен сбор на фильм Gayby, там фигурировало имя Рэнди, так вот, этот проект насколько известно не имеет никакого отношения к tAB, и вообще та история, тот счет для начисления средств к сабжу данной темы и к поддержке tAB и непосредственно Рэнди не относятся.

Еще один вариант - купить вышедший год назад на двд короткий фильм Thinking - www.theartsbureau.com/filmmusic.html
да, конечно, это не великая можно сказать помощь, он стоит 10 баксов всего, но во-первых, наверное Рэнди будет просто рад, что фильм покупают, я думаю это важно для него и потом... нас же много)


Вот так. Единственное я хочу предостеречь, если вы подозреваете, что вложив деньги будете ждать обязательной отдачи, и почувствуете себя глубоко оскорбленными не получив, или получив что-то, что вам возможно не понравится - лучше воздержитесь вовсе.... в таком случае видимо лучше Thinking

UPD: по скольку сайт tAB не работает в данный момент
то вот прямые координаты
для пожертвований: www.fracturedatlas.org/site/contribute/donate/8...

(и еще раз upd про пожертвования: не понятно, функционирует ли как либо tAB сейчас, но ссылка по прежнему открывается, так что вероятно она работоспособна и можно переводить деньги, адресат их получит)

купить "Thinking..." www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hos...

буквально месяц назад в Россию диск с фильмом, заказанный по этой ссылке был доставлен без проблем

канал tAB на ютубе www.youtube.com/theartsbureau
канал tAB на вимео vimeo.com/user4877572

фотогаллерея tAB www.flickr.com/photos/55214297@N03/

несколько скриншотов сайта tAB

@темы: tAB, Рэнди Харрисон

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Милашка Хэл!

с полгода назад я выкладывала цитаты из его печально знаменитого интервью 2008 года, где он ляпнул, что никакого продолжения QAF не будет, потому что продюсеры никогда больше не захотят работать с одним геем и одним натуралом из каста.
тема тут moveforever.diary.ru/p141775940.htm (там же и ссылка на всю статью)

и там он сказал,

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My feeling always was, an an actor - and especially as one of the straight actors on the show, that, to a degree, it was my job to do my lines the way they were written and mind my fucking business because our executive producers and many of our writers were gay and were creating these scripts and lines to tell their stories. What, I’m gonna come in and say, 'well I don’t think my character would do that'?. It’s like, seriously? Fuck off. Let's just say there was a little bit of, um, pushback with some of the other actors on the show.
ну типа:
- "Я всегда считал, что как актер, особенно как актер-натурал на этом шоу - это моя работа, произносить реплики, играть свою роль так, как она написана в сценарии, и не лезть не в свое дело, потому что наши продюсеры и многие другие сценаристы шоу - геи. И они пишут сценарий, чтобы рассказать историю как они хотят. И что? Я приду к ним и скажу: "Я считаю, что мой персонаж не сделает этого"? Серьезно? Да пошли вы."


а вот, его интервью 2001-го года, май.

'Queer as Folk' Lead Takes Role Model Role Seriously
By Marilyn Beck and Stacy Jenel Smith, May 17, 2001

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Showtime's renewal of its controversial gay-themed hit series "Queer As Folk" for a second season strikes star Hal Sparks as both good news and weighty news -- because he takes the cultural consequences of his role very seriously.
"If we're going to be accidental role models for the community, then let's get going," he declares.
And yet,... "We get asked to do gay community events, but not being gay, I feel a bit awkward," Sparks admits. "I joke that I feel like Ted Danson at the NAACP -- but truly, I don't know the level of suffering and discrimination that members of the gay community have to deal with." "I'm lucky, because I play the crossover character on the show. Straight people can look at him and think, 'I like him. I could be friends with him.' I guess, in a sense, that's a contribution I could make to the community," adds Sparks, a man of eclectic interests, who speaks French and Mandarin Chinese -- and who'll travel to Beijing for advanced martial arts studies before resuming "Queer As Folk" shooting in August.
But his character won't, in all likelihood, come out of the closet. Actually, reveals the former host of "Talk Soup,"
"In episode 12 of the first season, Michael was supposed to come out of the closet at work, and I said no. The executive producers are very open to hearing our opinions, and I said, 'If we're all just doing a gay pride march every week, where's the drama?' The show is set in Pittsburgh, not New York or Los Angeles. I believe that he would not come out in the next five years ... It's what a lot of gay people deal with."

приблизительно:
- Предполагалось что в 12 серии первого сезона Майкл совершит камин-аут на работе, и я сказал "нет". Продюсеры с готовностью прислушиваются к нашему мнению, и я сказал: "Если мы еженедельно будем показывать только триумф геев, то где же драма?" Действие происходит в Питтсбурге, не в НЙ или ЛА. Я считаю, что он не вылезет из чулана в следующие пять лет... Это то, с чем приходится сталкиваться в жизни многим геям.

вот так вот... тут даже и комментировать кажется нечего
он делал то, в чем потом обвинил Гейла и Рэнди, и что он по его словам считал недопустимым... вмешательство в работу сценаристов, навязывание им своего видения и своих идей.

и еще маленький штрих к портрету
в сентябре 2008 ryosato ходила на его шоу и дала ему полное издание сериала на ДВД для автографа, и она рассказывает, что он стал указывать на фотографии каста и говорить "он подписал бы тоже, она бы подписала, а он не подписал бы".. и так далее... он про всех сказал "подписал бы" кроме Гейла и Рэнди... это сентябрь 08, в конце октября 08 Рэнди приехал на кон в Париж. Не трудно представить сколько всего связанного сериалом, и возможно аналогичных изданий ДВД он там вероятно подписал.

@темы: Хэл Спаркс, интервью

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Интервью Патрика Антоша - теперь в переводе!!

The Crystalite Show (апрель 2003)
Я только что выкладывала это видео в тему-склад про Патрика и мечтала о транскрипте
а теперь, благодаря Насте  medveditsa с его содержанием можно ознакомиться на русском! (за что ей многократное спасибо!)
само видео можно было второй раз и не выкладывать, но пусть будет для колориту.
а интервью, читать, читать - имхо, очень интересное, жаль довольно короткое)

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(фрагменты разговора)

Ведущая: Наш гость проработал в QAF уже три сезона, с самого начала, вы видели его невероятные творения на всех персонажах, и сегодня он нам расскажет о некоторых своих секретах. Приветствуйте - Патрик Антош.
...С чего начать? Три года в QAF, верно?

Патрик: С первого дня. Когда я начал работать в этом сериале, я не хотел, чтобы это была постоянная работа - я уже работал в сериалах раньше, и это очень тяжёло. Я раньше работал в ужастиках, сплошь кровь и кишки, а где кровь и кишки, там и секс, и вот так я в итоге попал в QAF. Когда меня пригласили работать, я попросил об одном условии, и даже не думал, что меня возьмут на работу - я попросил, чтобы я мог три недели работать, две недели отдыхать. И они согласились, я поверить не мог. Я думал, что буду просто консультантом, что-то такое, но потом, проработав пару недель, решил остаться насовсем.

Ведущая: Одежду каких дизайнеров ты используешь в сериале?

Патрик: Самых разных, особенно для Брайана - нахожу самые знаменитые лейблы, какие только можно добыть. Еще у нас рекламный контракт с одним датским лейблом, они хотят продавать свои вещи в Канаде, рекламировать их в канадском сериале. Во втором сезоне я использовал свои французские и английские связи, и это было здорово, я прилетал в Нью-Йорк и мог там в их магазинах выбирать всё, что мне вздумается, иной раз и примерить...

Ведущая: Кое-что и для себя подобрал?

Патрик: Мне столько демонстрационных экземпляров дарят, не рассказать.

Ведущая: Ты видел всех актёров в нижнем белье, верно?

Патрик: Да. Но я стараюсь вести себя строго профессионально, и когда на них совсем нет одежды, мне незачем быть рядом. Есть ассистентка, женщина, вот она всегда рядом, и она наслаждается видом больше, чем я.

Ведущая: Истинный профессионализм такая редкость в наши дни, это прекрасно.

Патрик: Правда, со статистами у меня достаточно возможностей...

Ведущая: Еще лучше. Но у меня еще один вопрос - у кого самая внушительная "экипировка" в нижнем белье?

Патрик: У Эммета. Но вообще-то, они используют эти искусственные пенисы, я вообще не понимаю, зачем эти штуки существуют на свете, но я сам покупал их в магазине, они мягкие...

Ведущая: Ну как, это же называется "дилдо"...

Патрик: Нет, они абсолютно мягкие. Я не знаю, зачем они - запихивать в плавки, чтобы круче выглядеть? Но там еще и твоё собственное хозяйство, всё равно толку не будет. Знаете, была сцена, когда Брайан шёл по коридору в Банях, и кто-то хватал его за промежность и сжимал, так вот, там был кусок резины. Они еще бывают трёх размеров и разных цветов, и цвет соответствует размеру, но я не стану уточнять... Но для Эммета нам не приходилось их использовать.

Ведущая: А вот еще была сцена, Брайан лежит в солярии, и такой прекрасный кадр вдоль его тела, пока мы не добираемся до его лобковой зоны...

Патрик: ...И понимаем, что он натурал.

Ведущая: Потому что с таким объёмом волос - я уж думала, ему Фокси Клеопатра1 отсасывает. Ему кто-нибудь говорил?..

Патрик: Я говорил, но он не захотел этого делать. И еще одно, если вы внимательно посмотрите этот план - в тот день, когда мы снимали, было очень холодно, и он оставался в носках до самого момента съёмки, так что у него на ногах можно заметить рубчики от только что снятых носков.

Ведущая: Нелегко этим бедным парням приходится.

Патрик: Но он классный, он совершенно нормально всё воспринимает, он уверен в своей ориентации и спокойно ко всему относится.

Ведущая: Если кто-то еще не знает - парень, который играет Эммета, открытый гей, и парень, который играет Джастина, тоже.

Патрик: И еще парень, который играет Бена, нового бой-френда Майкла, такой мускулистый. Он открылся в прошлом году, в интервью журналу Advocate. И что забавно, он пришёл в сериал в прошлом году, и я был одним из первых, кто с ним встретился, и почему-то, не знаю, я решил, что он натурал. И я при нём произносил много всяких таких шуточек "для своих", какие говоришь, когда знаешь, что человек всё равно этого не понимает, и тут он вдруг показывает на постер одного актёра и говорит: "А я его знаю, у меня с ним как-то раз было свидание". И я так - о Боже... Но вообще, он тоже отличный парень.

Ведущая: Да, он замечательный, и как хорошо, что его взяли вместо того типа, который был в первом сезоне...

Патрик: С ним мы тоже ладили, но да, это был совсем другой человек.

Ведущая: Я о нём много неприятного слышала, так что - нахуй его. А ты можешь нам что-нибудь рассказать о предстоящем сезоне?

Патрик: Я бы рассказал, если бы знал, но сценаристы собрались вместе всего три или четыре недели назад, у них сейчас мозговой штурм, они придумывают сюжетные линии для нового сезона. И мне звонят обычно с какими-то идеями для сезона, но сейчас эти звонки еще не начались, так что рассказать мне нечего.


(Разговор заходит о Шэрон Глесс)
Патрик: Вся ответственность за её жилет со значками лежит на ней одной - я-то хотел, чтобы было не настолько чересчур, но всё это в итоге в десять раз безумнее, чем я планировал. Просто к вашему сведению.

Ведущая: То есть, ты не делаешь наряды для Шэрон?

Патрик: Нет, делаю, конечно, я работаю на продюсеров и делаю то, что они велят, у меня есть начальство, это не так, что я могу делать вообще что угодно. В этом сериале - из всех, где мне доводилось работать, - сильнее всего дух сотрудничества, мы всё обсуждаем. Например, Эммет и его наряд Джеки Кеннеди...

Ведущая: Он был роскошен.

Патрик: И продюсеры говорят - может, не переодевать его женщиной, просто нарядить как-нибудь поярче? И тут я сказал - давайте оденем его в костюм Джеки Кеннеди, который был на ней в день, когда убили Джона Кеннеди, и я знаю, что вы не пойдёте на это, но было бы здорово, если бы официант пролил на него красный коктейльный соус. И они это сделали.

перевод взят отсюда queerasfolk-rus.livejournal.com/100245.html
и там же еще всякие другие интересные обновления.

@темы: перевод, Patrick Antosh, интервью перевод

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Рэндины улыбки, раньше и сейчас.. с фанатками и с не фанатками)

прочла вчера на форуме, на ihj камент:

Does anyone know what happened to Randy's beautiful teeth showing smile? What I mean is most of the time recently, when photographed he does the close mouthed smile like in the pic above and the ones from the opening night party. I miss is bright sunshine smile that lights up any space. ???

что случилось с рендиной улыбкой, почему зубов нынче не видать, где же солнечная улыбка?

вот к этой фотке



и стало мне интересно проследить, а что действительно у него с улыбками на фотках, на которых он позирует в камеру с фанатками и не с фанатками, а то так прочитаешь и поверишь, что раньше прям как к нему фанатка под бочек, так он и засияет. (ну и заодно просто на Рэнди полюбоваться, хотя фотки в общем все общеизвестные)

итак раньше и сейчас. "сейчас", ну пусть это будет последние пара лет, а остальное будем считать как "раньше")


раньше с фанатками



2002




2004

улыбается




совсем не улыбается








2005

и где же солнечная улыбка?








ладно, вот она



ой, опять нету



2006

ну вот так например, не особо солнечно, но хорошо



2007

не видать зубов что-то



о, а вот тут замечательно видать





2008

ууу




о, а вот тут улыбается... правда не в камеру, но сойдет




а вот вполне себе мрачный, только иннер джастин сияет одна тут



зубы вижу только стейси








2009











вот примерно так
ой, а вот же тоже фоточки из "раньше", такие на всех улыбки прекрасные

да, только на этих фотках он не с фанатками)























впрочем так же легко найти из раньше, не с фанатками, и без таких улыбок) но не буду, а то тема станет совсем бесконечно длинной
и тему про прически переплюнет))


впереди еще "сейчас", как он сейчас улыбается когда не с фанатками, а со своими

улыбается))



не улыбается почти



не улыбается



да отлично просто улыбается))












и все зубы видно)






ну и собственно финишная прямая

с фанатками "сейчас", тоже за последние два года, с осени 2009 соответственно


не улыбается



замечательно улыбается




улыбается, но зубов не видно




да.. ваще не улыбается



или все таки улыбается?)





ну а дальше две фотки и улыбки, которые у меня конечно вызывают совершенно особый восторг ))



Ренди и  Миралинда





и если кто не в курсе, то в ее дневнике можно почитать отчеты о поездке Рэнди в Израиль глазами очевидца



и Ренди и  yennifaire





pay.diary.ru/~fangirls/ а тут, опять же если кто не в курсе, дневник нашего десанта  yennifaire и  BloodVesselна парижском коне 2010

вот)

но кстати, не могу не побурчать, если девушке той кажется, что улыбки стали не такие открытые, может ей стоит задуматься, может его не очень вдохновляет на солнечные улыбки фандом, который вламывается на фб его друзей, забирает оттуда фотки, видео, делает гифи из него? и из видео его бойфренда и вываливает все это на тамблир, а потом еще и пишет Ренди хамские открытые обращения накануне премьеры?

и кстати про тамблир, а никто не в курсе, что случилось с thumpathumpa

@темы: Рэнди фото, Рэнди Харрисон

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Патрик (все свалено в жуткую кучу)

а то вечно теряю что где... (вдохновил наконец-то собрать это в кучу перевод gulinarazig) почти все общеизвестное (а может и не все)
единственное, я залила на ютуб видюшку, это передача апрель 2003-го года, Патрик говорит о QAF
звук там ужасный, и очень мечтается о транскрипте, если кто-нить может, то было б классно

Patrick Antosh appeared on The Crystalite Show on Pridevision TV this weekend, talking about his work on Queer as Folk. He spoke candidly about everything from the production schedule to who has the biggest "package" (and we're not talking groceries, folks)



еще две видюшки есть с set sale с ним (не пойму, вроде было в онлайне где-то, если нет, то залью и добавлю)
ну и еще кое-чего тоже потом



переводы вопросов и ответов с форума патрика by gulinarazig тут - pay.diary.ru/~gulinarazig/p167410384.htm

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Queer as Fans - 2005

Convention Report by Leah Patrick Antosh and Staff

Q&A His Q&A was after lunch. Somebody did ask him about the fugly sweatervests, so I didn't have to. He got a bit defensive, saying that a lot of people liked them, that Gale looked great in them and that it was Gale's choice. I think I'd heard that before, about Gale choosing the fugly vests.



The wardrobe people work one episode ahead. There are 9 wardrobe people and 8 makeup people. He said they're currently shooting 509, so they're working on 510 now and it's "a doozy" with lots of costumes. Apparently there's some big scene - Tammy and I were snickering that it was B/J's wedding, no doubt.

Patrick said he dresses couples alike when they're getting along and differently when they're not. He used as an example dressing Mel in business clothes and Lindsay in casual clothes (probably referring to S1). I've never been much interested in reports of what the characters are wearing, but now I'll be on the alert for B/J wardrobe descriptions.

Gale is very picky about shoes and wears expensive ones. And his feet are not particularly large, especially for a man of his height. He's an 11-11-1/2. Randy, Scott and Hal all wear a size 9.

The best question was from a woman who asked him if they're ever going to have Justin wear Brian's clothes, the way lovers/partners sometimes do when they're just lounging around at home. He said Brian and Justin don't just lounge around at the loft (as if we hadn't noticed) and besides, Brian's clothes would be too big.

According to Patrick, the actors have become more opinionated about their wardrobes over the years. Naturally, he didn't go into specifics. He talked a bit about recycling clothes from one season to another, since nobody would notice if an extra in S4 was wearing a shirt that one of the main characters wore in S1. Apparently, he hasn't made his way to sandstorm63's LJ!

He said that Gale razzes anybody who wears something that was previously worn by Brian.

They (Patrick's two assistants were there) talked at some length about the shopping process. They shop a lot at small boutiques on Queen Street. He said this year the show is being shot in high definition video for the first time and it's been a bit of a challenge adjusting to that in terms of scenery and wardrobe considerations because everything shows up so much more sharply in HD.

Finally, he said that Cowlip have got the general plotline to the end of the season but they're still "fleshing out" the sсript. Why does that make me shudder in dread?

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From the little knit caps worn by Gus,



to the most outrageous leather gear seen at Babylon . . .

He does it all! Patrick Antosh, Costume Designer for Queer As Folk, was kind enough to take time out of his busy schedule to talk to us about his work on the show, and field some of the questions that we thought would interest other fans like ourselves. His answers were surprisingly candid, as well as humorous, and we want to thank him for his generosity. Please note: This interview was conducted in November, 2001. For a more recent interview, click here.

How did your job on QAF come about, and how has your job changed

since you began working on the show? Do you find there is a big
difference between last season and this one in terms of the way you go
about your work? Has the wardrobe budget increased accordingly with the
popularity of the show? I would imagine that last year you would have
been seeking out the big fashion trends for the 'boys of Babylon' while
this year, you may very well be setting the trends yourself!

Patrick: I have been working in Film Wardrobe for about 7 years
now. I got my first break on the Keanu Reeves Film "Johnny Mnemonic."
The Costume Designer took me under her wing and really taught me a lot
of the ropes in a very short time.

 

Johnny Mnemonic

Patrick: I know luck has played a lot in how quickly I have
advanced in my business, but I think hard work has kept me here. I was
in Paris for an extended trip, checking out the fashion shows when I
heard about Queer as Folk starting up in Toronto. I came back and was
lucky enough to get the job. It is a designers dream, particularly in
television, it is hard to find a show that allows so much creative
exprеssion. The success of the show has given us a second season, and
although budgets increase so do costs, so the real changes for me are
the number of companies like French Connection UK and Body Body, etc. that are willing to provide clothes in turn for exposure on the show.

 

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Patrick: "If you notice, Brian wears that little Conch Shell bracelet thing. [Ed.: It's actually a Cowry
shell bracelet]. I never thought anything of it for the whole year...
the first day we started shooting again, all the extras showed up, and
there was like seven guys that had them, so obviously you can buy them
anywhere, and it must be directed from the show. I didn't do that on
purpose." [from an earlier interview with Michel Chantelois of SoGayTV]

 

SoGayTV hosts model their Body Body Wear on the



U8TV.com float in Toronto's Pride Parade 2001

 

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As Costume Designer what exactly is the scope of your work? Do you

design many of the clothes yourself, or do you buy them and tailor
them? Do you work closely with the hair and makeup teams to put
together a 'look' for each character? Also, do any of the actors wear
their own clothes or accessories from time to time?

Patrick: This is one of the few shows that do allow a costume
designer to design from scratch. Of course I buy a lot of the clothes
and sometimes shop with the actors. When Gale [Harold, who plays Brian] and I go we spend more time talking and eating Sushi, Michelle Clunie [Melanie] and I are both shopaholics so we can waste a whole day
looking at stuff that would never be used on the show, I really have to
watch my self with her!!

 

Patrick: My biggest compliment is when cast go out and buy the
same clothes for themselves, that I have purchased for their
characters. Thea Gill [Lindsay] is always ecstatic about her clothes
and calls to thank me all the time. I have a personal assistant Lisa Renee Reed and a full time cutter/seamstress Meredith Wilson.
I design a lot of original clothing and as a team we all make it
happen. Lisa knows where to get me any fabrics or details necessary and
Meredith is one of the best tailors I know, making some of my craziest
ideas become a reality.

 

Lisa on the ladder and Meredith by her mannequins:

 

	Lisa Renee Reed	Meredith Wilson

What is a typical day like for you, and how do you divide your time
between shopping, designing, fittings, etc.? Are you often at the set
through the long hours of taping, or do you work behind the scenes most
of the time?

Patrick: My days are very diverse. If there is a particularly
complicated wardrobe issue in a scene I will go to set to watch what is
going on, but usually I leave those details in the capable hands of my
set crew, Shannon and Karen who monitor ever detail of continuity and
last minute changes. The majority of my time is spent in meetings
discussing conceptual issues with directors and producers, designing
and decision making, and basically overseeing my whole department which
can expand up to 8 or 9 people on some days.

 

Who has the 'final say' in what each character wears?

Patrick: The final say is definitely a collaboration of the
actor, writers producers and director. I'll admit that I am known for
being quite opinionated, so the final decision is usually pretty close
to my original concept.

 

How does the ever-changing and often unpredictable weather in
Toronto affect your costume choices? Do the characters have a selection
of outdoor wear, for those external shoots where coats, hats, mitts,
boots, etc. are required? Has anyone ever resorted to long underwear?

Patrick: Although we have diverse weather conditions here, it is
pretty predictable and we're prepared for anything. Each cast has
they're own set of warm ups, including thermal underwear, (but none of
it is for sale !!!)

People often talk about music being like another character on a
show; to me, the wardrobe has a similar role. How much influence do you
have as a designer over the 'personality' that the clothes bring to the
show? For example, Brian wears a lot of dark colours, which can suggest
he has a more 'severe' personality, while Michael wears what I call the
"Charlie Brown" shirts -- lots of primary colours, etc. -- which can
make him seem younger or less 'sophisticated.' Does the writing dictate
how the characters should dress, and do you collaborate with the
writers and producers to create this effect?

Patrick: You have a very keen eye, your descriptions are pretty
close to the idea I have for the personality of each character. When I
started the show I put together a whole portfolio of each character
sketches and swatches but also character ideas and personality traits,
This is in collaboration with the writing/producing team, so we make
sure we develop the characters
solidly.

 

Who comes up with the sayings for Debbie's t-shirts? They're
fantastic! And baby Gus' hats? Adorable! Was it difficult dressing a
baby for the show, especially one who kept changing all the time?

Patrick: I take great pride in coming up with the majority of
sayings on Debbie's shirts. You will be able to download them on the
Showtime website in the near future. We've given some of the original
t-shirts to raise funds for charities.

 

Patrick: Lisa gets to take most of the credit for Gus. She
really enjoys shopping for him. I have his knit hats and sweaters made
by a good friend of mine in Elora Ontario, Marlene Pascow who owns The
Yarn Bird.

 

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Patrick Antosh Interview - May 2005

Patrick Antosh,
Costume Designer for Queer As Folk, kindly agreed to answer a few of
our questions about his experience on the show during the past five
years, and shared some fashion insights with us at the same time.
Thanks to those of you who offered suggestions (you know who you are!).
Photo credit: Alexander Plata (www.rafaelfotoz.com).

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When we did our first interview
back in 2001, you mentioned that you got your first break on the Keanu
Reeves film "Johnny Mnemonic" where the Costume Designer took you under
her wing and taught you the ropes. Do you feel as though you’ve been
able to 'pay it forward' by helping other novices as you've gained more
experience in the business yourself? Along those same lines, you speak
highly of your assistants at QAF. Can you tell me a little bit about
the people you’ve worked with and what they've brought to the table?

Patrick:
I am a great believer in paying it forward and am always supportive of
anyone trying to get into the business. Throughout QAF's 5 seasons I
have gotten many actors, drag queens and dancers auditions, but of
course their talent is what got them on the show. I am very proud to
say that my staff enjoys working for me and that coming to work on
Queer as Folk is always considered a positive experience. My permanent
crew has always worked beyond expectations and I have relied on them to
make the wardrobe on the show look as good as it does. In particular my
assistant Kimberley Stanley is irreplaceable to me, keeping the
business side in order,allowing me to only focus on the creative.

Over the years, several companies like Body Body Wear and FCUK were willing
to provide clothes in exchange for exposure on the show. Has that trend
continued, and if so, what labels should we keep an eye out for this
season?

Patrick:
Many wonderful companies have either sent free samples or given
discounts. Larger ones like Hugo Boss and Diesel as well as smaller
ones like Itsus, Kronk and Ginch Gonch.

Will the show's theme of "boys becoming men" be reflected in the clothing in
season 5? How have you matured the characters in terms of fashion?

Patrick:
Absolutely, Justin definitely has a style that reflects his bohemian,
artistic side, a big change from his "twink" look from past seasons.
Michael too wears more adult clothes in muted colours that reflect his
connection to Ben. Lindsay has matured from her earth mother clothing
to a strong independent business woman, capable of continuing with or
with out Melanie, and of course it was a thrill to no longer have to
dress Michelle Clunie in maternity clothes.

Is there one thing you are most proud of after five years at QAF?

Patrick: Sorry, there are too many to list!!

Do you ever design clothes for friends or family (outside of work)?

Patrick:
I am very flattered when I've been asked to help out with wardrobe,
most often I am asked after the outfit has been purchased and I love to
give accessory tips, things they wouldn't have thought of. I have also
helped out on several wedding gown designs for friends and most
recently the prom gown for my niece Sherri-Lynn.

When it comes to personal taste, we all have favourites in the fashion
world; but is there a particular clothing designer in the television or
film industry that you respect or admire above all others as far as
their work goes?

Patrick:
I love Patricia Fields for the risks she is willing to take, although
with her confidence I doubt she thinks of them as risks at all and I
admire that too.

If you had the opportunity, whose closet (out of anyone in the world) would you most like to raid?

Patrick:
Jude Law (we're the same size); Andre 3000 Benjamin (although I could
never pull off the look); Clive Owen (just because I’d like to be in
his closet).

What were your general impressions of the QAF set sale? Were you surprised

by the turnout, and what people bought? Who made the decisions on what
items would be sold? Did you keep any mementos yourself?

Patrick:
Cast were given the opportunity to take items of their wardrobe that
they liked, and I considered it a great compliment that they liked so
many things. The rest of the items were inventoried and put up for
sale. Over 2000 people came through on the first day alone. It was a
bit of a zoo, but incredibly fun, meeting fans and seeing items go to
good homes, after the sale any left over items were donated to various
charities.

I realize that this might be a difficult question to answer in a forum

like this, but in general terms, given its groundbreaking status, what
impact do you think QAF has had on society, or the GLBT community?

Patrick:
I think it is very easy to forget that only 5 years ago there were very
few gay characters on television, and those were either comic relief or
tragic. The greatest achievement of QAF was showing gay characters in
situations that did not revolve solely around their sexuality. The rest
of television has caught up with characters whose homosexuality is not
their primary trait. It is simply not enough to be gay any more,
characters require more depth. The characters on QAF have arrived at a
point where they need to have more straight friends in order to be
realistic. A show about gay characters is now a bit too exclusive and I
think that is a great achievement.

A lot of notoriety generally goes to those in front of the camera. Are

you surprised that your work behind the scenes on QAF has turned you
into a 'celebrity' as well, with requests for interviews and
appearances at the fan Conventions, along with a website and fan
following of your own?

Patrick:

I am constantly surprised by my fan base. I am often stopped on the
street or notice people looking at me and I can tell they think they
recognize me from some where. When Elsa Rose Bryant suggested www.patrickantosh.com
last April, I agreed as a lark never imagining it would reach 2 million
hits in one year. The fan letters complimenting my work are a great way
to start each day.

We know that you've been writing a column for Scenester magazine. What
else is next for you? Where can we see your designs in the future?

 

Patrick:
Right now I am hoping to be able to take the summer off.
I am off toLos Angeles soon to attend the season 5 premier and also to do some on
camera interviews for the season 5 DVD extras. I am hoping to write for
come other magazines and perhaps have a shot in front of the camera ona lifestyle show.
The great sense of accomplishment from Queer as Folk
will be hard to repeat so I am hoping to take my career in a new direction.

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Thanks

to Patrick for taking the time to share his thoughts with us, and for

doing such a great job on the show these past five years! Be sure to

visit patrickantosh.com, Patrick's official website to find out what he's up to. And for more information on the QAF characters' wardrobes, visit the Starbrand.tv for fans!

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SoGayTV invited Patrick Antosh, Costume Designer for Queer As Folk, to speak to the viewers about gay fashion, along with Stephen Sandler, creator of Body Body Wear clothing, and Paul DeBoy, host of the PrideVision show "The Locker Room." Host Mathieu Chantelois sat down with the three men to talk shop...

Mathieu: What is the gay chic? Is there such a thing as the 'gay aesthetic'?

Patrick:

I think that part is a bit overrated. When I was getting the job on

[Queer As Folk], there was a lot of talk about getting a gay designer

for the show, or whether they would just get a [straight] designer, and

I honestly think I'm just a designer, and since I've started doing the

show, I've learned so much more. I went to fly

[the Toronto nightclub which used to double as "Babylon"] for the first

time last May and I'd been shooting the show for eight months, thinking

I knew what was going on, and it opened up a whole new world for me.

I'd never done anything like that before. I go out a lot more now, but

at least I can write it off!

Mathieu: What did you learn this last year about the gay chic?

Patrick:

I think that I had a good sensibility for it, obviously. I used to live

outside of Toronto in a really small town but I obviously got in here

and I got to see what was going on. I think that it's more -- it's not

even a gay thing -- I think when you watch TV, and you watch straight

TV, everybody's dressed really, really well. Well, gay men actually

dress that well most of the time; and it's pretty cliché to say that,

because obviously there's badly dressed gay people too, but I think

that generally, we have just a bit better aesthetic and we're willing

to wear what's out on the runway, and you have all these sexy clothes

by Versace or whatever, like everybody loves labels, but it's moreover

clothes about sexuality, and gay men, or homosexuals, have the nerve to

wear that sexy clothing. So I think it's mostly sexy clothing, and

that's where he [Stephen] comes in, because it's mostly tight-fitting

clothes.

Mathieu: You provide a lot of tight clothes for gay men... is this what the gay men want?

Stephen: It's what the gay men want, but a lot of straight men want it to. I won't focus on the straight guy tonight, but...

Mathieu: How do you create the look for gay guys then?

Stephen:

I think going out to clubs and seeing what guys like, and creating

something with a sexiness, something that is going to make the guys'

shoulders look bigger and waists a little smaller, just the perception

that you're going to look sexier. Ultimately, that's my goal.

Paul: Isn't gay fashion more about body image right now, as opposed to the clothes?

Mathieu: Gay guys are the fashion designers of their own bodies, and then they just put tight things on top.

Patrick:

That's the thing, they start underneath. The same clothes are available

to straight people, and all of the runway stuff is very sexy and the

majority of people can't wear it, but gay mean seem to be

hypersensitive to how they look and spend the extra time looking good

or watching their weight and what they eat, so they get to wear even

more revealing clothes and actually don't have to go so far to cover up

the mistakes because they try harder not to have any mistakes.

Stephen:

It's also about the fabrics... there's the fit and the sexy kind of

silouhette; there's also the fabrication. There's also the images that

gay designers portray on the runway where John Bartlett is showing

clothes on a beach, by the pier, and he's got guys cruising... I was at

that show, in a jail, where guys were behind bars... you've got these

images that are sexy for gay men.

Patrick:

I think it's also about the people that want to be fashionable. I think

that gay people want to be fashionable, and I think that's the key.

They want to be sexy, and they want to look good, and it's something

guys can relate to with other guys, and that's important so we take it

further. It makes my job really easy because I get to also create with

really great colours rather than just black and grey. I can use a lot

of colour, a lot of texture, and that's really what makes the job

exciting.

Paul:

Do you find it limiting as a designer to make clothes that are so form

fitting? Do you actually set out to design clothes of a looser nature,

or something that you don't think gay men would actually put on to go

out and get laid?

Patrick: The funny thing is, that fifty percent of the clothes that I make and design are loose fitting.

Question from the chatroom on U8TV.com: Are wide pant legs in style, or not?

Patrick: They are in style, but nobody wants to wear them.

Mathieu: You have this problem with your actors?

Patrick:

Totally. Gale, who plays Brian -- all the time. Every brand new pair of

pants I get in for him: [imitating Gale] "Can you just taper them to a

cigarette?" He likes them really narrow.

Mathieu: How are the actors to work with?

Patrick: Honest to god, they're great.

Mathieu: All of them? Come on, we want a bit of dirt! One name!

Patrick:

Some of them are a little more private than others when it comes to the

sex scenes. Michelle Clunie, who plays Melanie, there's no problem

having a fitting with her. I could be in there for two hours with her,

and we have a little curtained off room -- her and Emmett, actually, we

don't need the little curtained off room. Anybody could walk in there

at any time, and they're in there naked, and it's like 'put on the next

thing.'

 

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An Interview with Patrick Antosh

Who was the most fun to dress?

Surprisingly it wasn’t a cast member who was most fun to dress but

the drag queens and gogo boys!

Who was pickiest about their clothes?

I won’t say who was the pickiest, but Peter, Bobby, Michelle and Thea

were the most involved with their wardrobe choices. They would often

call me to discuss a certain scene long before we shot it. They loved to

collaborate on outfit selections to complement certain scenes. This is a

costume designer’s dream.

Who was the hardest to create a «look» for?

Ted evolved so many times over the 5 seasons that it was hard to

come up with a new look to reflect his inner changes. I ended up

trying to keep coming back to the original, pure Ted, trying to make

the point that no matter what deep inside we remain the same.

Did you have certain colors you would never use for a particular character?

Certain colors you always used?

The most obvious is Brian always being in black. All the characters had distinct color palettes that you can see clearly episode to

episode. I had fun changing colors as characters changed, like Lindsay in pastels and denims as a full time mom, but then darker

tones as she reentered the business world.

Whose personal style was most different from their character?

Of course Sharon Gless and Debbie Novotny are completely different, but aside from that I would have to say Hal Sparx’

personal style differed most from his character. Hal’s got a rocker lifestyle, what with his band Zero 1, (who I think are fantastic

by the way). Hal is an actor who purposely keeps his character’s identity separate from his own as an acting tool.

Whose was most alike?

Thea and Michelle dressed most like their characters. I loved it when the girls would ask me for a double of their outfits for

personal use.

Did the babies present any particular challenge for you?

The babies caused me no problem for me because the girls in my department took care of them completely! One time I tried

shopping for a baby outfits and when I returned to the office it was deemed so ugly that Kimberley, my assistant insisted on

taking over all baby shopping. She did a fantastic job. The hardest part was finding triples and quadruples of items as multiples

were need for «emergencies».

The costumes for the dancers at Babylon were always amazing. Did you have input as to the themes they

wore, or were they dictated by sсript?

Coming up with GoGo themes was practically a full time job for me. Gogo boys and Drag shows were never written into the

sсriрt. I tried, whenever possible, to have the the dancers or drag numbers reflect what was happening in that particular episode.

How much time did you have to do clothes for a particular episode?

Technically we had 7 or 8 day prep for a 7 or 8 day shoot, per episode. I had to keep a large running closet for each cast

member over the whole season as well.

Do you know if anyone kept anything that they wore on the show?

Showtime graciously allowed the cast to keep what wardrobe items they wanted. Some kept just a bit , others took their entire

stock, again a huge compliment to me.

What were your favorite costumes for the dancers?

Favoutite outfits that come to mind are the bride from the white party, the gladiator show from season 4, the super heroe’s the

gold cowboys, the rising angel number with Divina Devore, my god so many! I could keep going...

What did you learn that you wouldn’t know if you hadn’t worked on QAF?

I have learned so much. I definitely had my eyes opened to sides of gay culture that I had no idea existed. I also learned new

skills, both technical and business wise, but most of all I made great friends.

How do you feel about the fans?

I am overwhelmed with the warmth and sincerity of fans. The fact that I have a fan site still blows me away. My friends in the

cast loved their fans, it is like icing on the cake that they get public admiration of their work.

From a fan: «I've always wanted to hear more details on Patrick's shopping excursions with Gale... which

specific stores would they go to, what they would buy etc. Did they buy things for themselves, were they

shopping for Brian and other characters and what did they buy. Did any of these purchases make it to

screened eps?»

Of all the cast Gale has the busiest schedule. At the beginning of each season I would book a shopping trip with him and then

once or twice again later in the season. I knew my time was limited so when we shopped «Brian» was the only focus. Queen

west is a trendy shopping area in Toronto. The area is full of independent designers and one of a kind fashions. Delphic, Due

west and KU are a few. It was really commando shopping, in and out of stores in 10 or 15 minutes. Often I would send a shopper

back later to purchase and pick up our selections. I don’t think we ever had a shopping spree where Gale didn’t get something.

I had an arrangement with a fantastic store called Grreat Stuff, who would let me take large amounts of stock to the office for

fittings. I rarely had anything to return though. It seemed we always ended with a Sushi dinner. In fact I am now a big sushi

fan, but was a novice Season 1 when Gale first suggested it.

 

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Folk stylings

Views / How I dress the characters of TV’s gayest show



story by Patrick Antosh / Xtra Dec 28 2000







Crew arrives at the Toronto set at a ridiculously early hour, four hours of sleep after a ridiculously late night. Stephen, the make-up artist, applies make-up — often over the entire body. Michael the hair stylist does hair, including a clipped chest and butt. Marie, the wardrobe key, sets out the day’s clothes, which might include a genital wrap or two, depending on the scene.



The US press always compares Queer As Folk to Will And Grace. Yeah — so far, the similarities must be glaringly obvious.



Then I too begin my day as the show’s costume designer, couturier to disco trash, harbinger of style to non-receptive lesbians. It’s given me an inside view of the production of the US remake of the groundbreaking British show. And it’s certainly been a different experience from my first costume-designing gig on a children’s show called Animorphs (four spunky kids save the planet from alien invasion with a cuddly blue half man/half horse).



For example, at pre-production meetings for Queer As Folk, we confer over scripyed lines like, "Get on your knees, pussyboy" — does it really captures Emmett’s pique at Bill for lying to him? — and character names like usemyhole27.



The character Ted, an accountant who’s not quite at home in the gay world, gets picked up by a muscle stud at the 24-hour convenience store and they do it in the parking lot. The transportation department is told to get a van with a big enough sunroof to see Ted’s face when his knees are behind his ears.



Set design also has special concerns. In a role reversal, Brian, the sexually aggressive character (based on the character Stuart from the British series), is seduced in his ultra chic executive office by an employee. "We’ll need to replace Brian’s glass desktop with plexi so it can stand the weight of them fucking on it," the set designer points out. Which takes us to the dilemma of casting: Does the fellow playing the employee have a butt we’re gonna want to see through plexi?



All this is distracting enough, but my responsibility is the clothes. I’m often asked if it’s harder to dress gay characters as opposed to straight ones. Well, only because it takes longer for gay men to decide what to wear.



At the New York premiere I was interviewed by actor Harvey Fierstein. "You’ve dressed New York, you’ve dressed LA. How do you dress Pittsburgh?" he asked me, referring to the setting of the show. Well, the truth is, most gay men I know dress like they’re ready to hop a Concorde to New York or LA, regardless of the city they live in.



Though it’s true gay men are usually the only ones who have the nerve to wear what’s walking the catwalk at the moment, it’s not like every gay man on the show should be a GQ model. And not all lesbians wear lumberjack shirts.



In real life there are gay men with no taste, and lesbians who dress fabulously. It’s no easier to be an authority on gay style than it is to be an authority on straight style. There’s a spectrum of looks and the critics sitting at home watching the series can be unforgiving with fashion mistakes.



Lucky for me, most of the principal actors are basically the same size as I am. I can try things on before bringing them to actors for a fitting. A little bigger for Brian the well-built sexual predator, a little shorter for Michael, the adorable best friend, and a little tighter for Justin, the hot little twink.



In the last six months I’ve dressed myself up as every style of go-go boy, leather stud, and backroom tramp. My Polaroid collection is extensive.



Although it’s a gay show, I will succeed only if I make the actors look contemporary and realistic, not just gay. So I get my influence from all over, on the street, in gay magazines. Of course, the more flamboyant characters are the most fun.



Take Emmett, for example. Based on the queeny Alexander from the British show, he’s obviously the most splashy character — the out and proud friend we have or wish we were. His style is a complete rip-off of my best friend Ron, from my party days in the late ’80s. The look says fashion at any price, even if it means wearing much too little waiting in line to get into a club in February. Ron came from Vancouver for the crew screening of the first episode. He hated to admit it but he saw a bit of himself there.



My best opportunity to imitate reality is in the scenes that require background players: parties, bars and street scenes. Every television show or movie depiction of gay life I’ve seen so far always overdoes it by showing one of each — a sampling of gay society that has bears, drag queens, leather daddies, lipstick lesbians and bull dykes mingling together lovingly. Does Hollywood do it so no one feels left out, or is it because the mix is so rich they get greedy and try to stuff it all into one scene? Sure, crowds mix, but even in a minority group, friendship is based on more than a common sexuality. The argument I’ve always made is that if we were to shoot a scene at the Catholic women’s league, should we put in a women bleeding from her palms just to cover all the bases?



But back to the fun stuff. I’ve never received an award, but I can’t imagine too many Emmy Award-winning costume designers have had to fit an actor with an assortment of cockrings or tried to attach a 12-inch dildo onto a completely naked body. My only press claim to fame thus far suggests that I do have the required experience: a National Enquirer article crediting me as the boy who had to wrap Christian Bale’s privates in a sock every day for a week for the chainsaw scene in American Psycho. I’m flattered that the actor who plays Michael, Queer As Folk’s homeless romantic, has taken to calling his own privacy sock "Mr Bale."



We’re trying to make real TV. But the only thing we can try to keep straight are our faces. And that’s hard when a work day starts with 33 dildoes for a fight sequence. If you have half as much fun watching it as we do making it, we’ve done our job.

 

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When questioned about some of the questionable clothes that Brian wore

in S5 (black shirt w/flowers & brown suit) Partrick responded:





I guess it's a personal opinion thing. Gale will most definitely not

wear anything he does not like personally, regardless of what the

character's tastes are , so that limits what I can do as Costume

Designer. That is the explanation for some of the outfits you may have

questioned over the last five years. I truly appreciate your feedback.



patrick antosh

 

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не патрик, но пусть будет

 

Gale Harold Style

Style: What is your personal style?

Gale: Pretty simple: stovepipe pants, cheap black glasses, used leather,
rayon gabardine with lots of piping, hard woods, Spanish wine, Italian
boots, loud music, long legs, big windows, salsa cruda, Republican-free
futures.

Style: Do you enjoy dressing up?

Gale: I do. Especially if I have enough time to enjoy getting ready,
like a summer night when the sun is setting late, condensation from the
vodka tonic's leaving water rings on the furniture, maybe some Junior
Wells on the stereo. The simple act of cinching a Windsor knot gets
kinda deep.

Style: What do you wear for a night out?

Gale: Usually Levi's, boots or Pumas, and a T-shirt. If I'm dressing up, maybe a sharkskin suit. Or a microdress . . .

Style: Where do you like to shop?

Gale: I buy a lot of used stuff. Toronto - where we shoot - has great
vintage shops. I found a really hot '60s pinstripe suit on Queen Street
with a perfect shape. It's navy with blood-red lining. Unbeatable.

Style: Who are some of your favorite designers?

Gale: Paul Smith, Cesare Paciotti and Patrick Antosh.

Style: Do you shop alone?

Gale: Depends. I like to shop with the wardrobe designer for the show
because he knows all the right spots. It's fun to kill a few hours going
through piles of arcane stuff that fires me up but that I would
probably never wear.

Style: Name an item of clothing or an accessory that you have splurged on.

Gale: I had a suit made here in Toronto [based on] this early '60s suit I
found in San Francisco. [The vintage suit] was really nasty, like
Carnaby Street mod-tapered and tight. I sort of destroyed it over the
years, so I took it to a shop, Niagara Tailors in Little Italy, and had
it reproduced.

@темы: Patrick Antosh